1998 Giant - DS-1
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Spoonyman said on 7 October 2011

The geometry is ruined - not entirely sure how anybody rides that thing. *BB height sarcasm overload*

Goober replied... on 10 October 2011

I don't know what you started. But I did measure the eye to eye and it was 6.5 with 2.5 stroke like the stock shock I replaced. Mine had 100mm Judy XC's on it when I got it. Yes the CoG is raised but I don't mind it it suits the type of stuff I ride over. I do alot of woods riding where there are not clear trails and you have to climb over fallen trees. I got tired of not being able to just stay on my bike. So that's why the BB is raised. Does that make a little more sense now. I know its not pretty and some people would not like the ride. But I do and that's all that matters. The white brothers fork was made in 1998 to go on the "y" frame bike to make them more like what the manufacturer said the bike were ment.I appologize to you as well. I thought you were spoonyman hence the bike comments. Good choice in front forks though. I have noticed something about mine You can't really tell by the picture but my steertube is recessed way back from the others. I Really noticed when sitting next to a buddies sant cruz with boxxers on it.

Longman2012 replied... on 10 October 2011

I would love to feel how it really rides.

Longman2012 replied... on 10 October 2011

What have i started, lol!!!

surreel replied... on 8 October 2011

Do you actually know what you are talking about? Do you know what things like axle to crown length, negative trail and eye to eye length? No? Somehow, I don't think White Brothers designed their 150mm travel DH fork to work on a bike which originally came with Rock Shox Indy's at 63mm of travel. I believe the bit about steerer tube angle again to be total rubbish to, are you saying that you have offset crowns to enhance the geometry of the bike? If the shock is a factory spec replacement, then how come it is longer? The OEM shock would of been a glorified pogo stick in the back end, probably minus any form of damping, so how would Fox have a tune for both the rebound and the compression circuit. The longer shock has not only raised the BB height, affecting your CoG but decreased your front centre, decreased the reach and increased the stack and standover height, probably making the bike pedal and turn like a pig.

As for the whole retro comments, I'm sure my Marzocchi Z1's will be running just fine come May next year when they reach 12 years old, although I have no idea why you have comments about Konas or Mondrakers

Goober replied... on 7 October 2011

Sorry no disrespect I meant to say stinky/stab/operator Mondraker

Goober replied... on 7 October 2011

The fork was actually designed for that bike it will not work on a newer bike it won't fit the new style frames. The steer tube angle and length only match that style frame. The rear shock is a factory spec replacement per Fox Racing's tech support. Sorry I haven't ripped the head tube off yet but I will make sure to let you know if it ever happens and I will make sure to send you the pics. Get back to me in twelve years and let me know how that Moondrake is doing o.k.

surreel replied... on 7 October 2011

I think you misunderstood what Spoonyman is saying. Your Giant has a higher bottom bracket, affecting the CoG of the bike which results in a bike that isn't as stable in the corners as it used to be. Plus matching long travel forks with a low axle to crown height to geometry designed around 80mm of travel could lead to negative trail and such steep head angles that if you G-out the steering will become twitchy. That is, if the extra stiffness of a dual crown fork and the leverage of a longer fork doesn't rip your headtube off

But of course, you're a real rider so what's it matter to you eh?

Goober replied... on 7 October 2011

It takes a real rider to ride a quality retro ride. Its from a time when you actually had to know how to ride a bike and not just be happy with what you bought from an LBS.

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Longman2012 said on 5 October 2011

I have a Giant Box One, same frame i believe, just a few differences. Love what u've done with yours. Very retro! How does it handle with the bigger shock & forks? Ps rate mine please. :)

Goober replied... on 5 October 2011

Will do. And I haven't found anything they it couldn't handle yet. It has way more groung clearance know then it did before. So logs are no longer a problem and the thing is so plush that it eats up rock gardens. I pretty much just point it in the direction I want to go and just let the bike do what it wants.

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nathan83 said on 29 April 2011

sweet old school rig mate, thumbs up! rate my kona cheers

Goober replied... on 29 April 2011

Yeah I really enjoy all the looks it gets, and questions they ask about the upgrades.

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Brooksy said on 9 February 2011

Awesome retro looking bike with great spec. Nice to see old skool bikes well looked after and maintained gotta be a 10. feel free to rate mine too.

Goober replied... on 9 February 2011

yeah i thinki finally got it dialed in.

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wythall1 said on 7 February 2011

Upside-downies! cool! Looks great...

Goober replied... on 9 February 2011

can't wait for spring I geting really ancy with all this snow around.

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siddall28 said on 27 January 2011

good to see the classics holding there own against the newer models seat post looks a bit suspect though lol

Goober replied... on 6 February 2011

yeah I've been meaning to take care of that.

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TagumTrailRider said on 11 January 2011

for some owners, bikes don't last 13 years, you must be one heck of an owner and this must also be one heck of a bike to last this long.
Love the FOX SHOX, it makes your bike look agressive. awesome bike!

and if you have the time, please check out my bike. it's not much but I really love it

TagumTrailRider replied... on 18 January 2011

why are you replacing your foxshox?

Goober replied... on 17 January 2011

White Brothers UD 150 pro dual crown

TagumTrailRider replied... on 15 January 2011

oh you're replacing your forks? what forks you gettin then?

Goober replied... on 12 January 2011

I'm getting ready to send it into the shop to get my new fork put on and my rims re-laced.

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easyboy said on 31 December 2010

shes looking good for a 13 year old
old meets new/new meets old

Goober replied... on 1 January 2011

thanks been a real trip getting dialed the way i want it.

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easilee said on 27 November 2010

well used classic,nice upgrades

Goober replied... on 28 November 2010

thanks will be upgrading the fork to a white bros after the new year.

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D.R. said on 29 October 2010

Nice ride. It remids me so much of the sort of bikes I drooled over when I got into mountain biking in a big way. I can imagine still owning my frame in 10 years time, when you build them from scratch they are just so hard to part with. I bet it still holds its own thanks to the parts upgrades.

Goober replied... on 30 October 2010

actually i think it does a little better because i know exactly how its going to react unlike guys who have only had their bikes for a couple of seasons.

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phzik said on 28 October 2010

retro lookin a lil flimsy tho

Goober replied... on 28 October 2010

That was suposed to say five foot table and five foot drop.

Goober replied... on 28 October 2010

looks are decieveing it can take a five table and drop with a 245lb gorilla in the saddle. lol.

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Biker_jez said on 23 October 2010

I love it mate, looks fun to ride, good spec on an oldschool frame, sweet:)

Goober replied... on 23 October 2010

thanks dude its been a labor of love

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MountainBikerChris said on 15 October 2010

I actually quite like this, i like what you have done to it, great jod my friend!

Goober replied... on 21 October 2010

hope you get yours done soon

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KarmicReaper said on 15 September 2010

Old skool but still cool. Nice1 ;)

Goober replied... on 16 September 2010

yep she still puts up with my abuse.

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mogsie said on 11 September 2010

gota love retro bikes ! sweeet,

Goober replied... on 15 September 2010

thanks dude stil can't bring my self to get a new ride yet.

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Slacker_Boy said on 11 August 2010

Smart Bike :)

Rate mine please.

Goober replied... on 12 August 2010

thanks and will do

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Gripple said on 27 July 2010

"OLD SKOOL GIANT" 12 years old.. Giant all the way!!

Goober replied... on 29 July 2010

No doubt can't wait to see what yours ends up like after a few years

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bunnyboy1 said on 7 July 2010

Nice one m8. Luvin the forx and shock!

Goober replied... on 7 July 2010

Thanks dude it can handle my old fat but still jumping like i'm 18

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Bu11dog said on 21 June 2010

Looking good bro

Goober replied... on 22 June 2010

Thanks dude

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rockhopper77 said on 8 June 2010

retro or what? bet it handles a lot better than when you first started with it lol

Goober replied... on 9 June 2010

yes it does I can actually do drops without fear of snapping a fork.

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DeanDouglas94 said on 29 May 2010

youve done a cracking job so far mate

Goober replied... on 29 May 2010

thanks it's been a real fun so far

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trimmtrab said on 27 May 2010

Gosh I was still in my 20s with a flat stomach when this bike was built.

Well looked after and obviously loved

Plz rate mine

Goober replied... on 28 May 2010

yeah i remember the flat stomach days

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Fubar-XC1 said on 25 May 2010

Its got to have a 10 quality old skool stuff, I aint seen one of these in years. A piece of genius!

Goober replied... on 26 May 2010

Thanks I love all the questions I get as I jump over stuff that guys with newer rides can't

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rigby said on 22 May 2010

Old school cool!!
Rate mine plz?

Goober replied... on 22 May 2010

yep it's finally almost finished

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Marin.Bikes said on 22 May 2010

Proper old school DH bike mate love it. Please rate my Marin

Goober replied... on 22 May 2010

thanks will do

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tomtom91 said on 14 May 2010

that is one hell of a sweet retro bike, looks sweet with the forks and rear shock :)

Goober replied... on 22 May 2010

I can truly understand about the whole money thing.

tomtom91 replied... on 22 May 2010

well my blue one is having trouble with the starter motor so may have to take the one off the other beetle and the other beetle is awaiting repairs off me and im awaiting money :)

Goober replied... on 18 May 2010

speaking of upgrades how are them bugs' coming along?

tomtom91 replied... on 17 May 2010

yeah ide love to get an old bike frame and then do it up with modern things, king of like taking a taking an old car and putting loads of modern stuff on it

Goober replied... on 15 May 2010

yeah I really enjoy it I can't bring myself to get a new one now that I've got this one set up so well

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paynter17 said on 10 May 2010

thats cool

Goober replied... on 11 May 2010

thanks

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mtbstuffman said on 6 May 2010

the spec looks pretty good

Goober replied... on 9 May 2010

Thanks can't wait till I get my brake upgrade on it

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jimjimthehumanbin said on 4 May 2010

Aha, A classic Giant. Nice.

Goober replied... on 9 May 2010

hard to part with something you've grown attached to.

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huytonhead said on 4 April 2010

i'm giving it a ten as it reminded me of my first full suspension bike years ago, it was a giant box 1 good to see your keeping it going

Goober replied... on 5 April 2010

Thanks it still rides as smooth as butter and will run with the new guys for a lot less.

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08StinkyRider said on 3 April 2010

Looks actually good spec and condition for its age. Nice ride

Goober replied... on 3 April 2010

thanks its hard to find people who still like older bikes

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JAKE0106 said on 2 April 2010

retro nice one..

rate mine if you get the chance ;) cheers

Goober replied... on 3 April 2010

thanks for the review and will return the favor

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piranha said on 2 April 2010

looking good for a 12 year old bike ;)

the shock looks rather new though

Goober replied... on 22 May 2010

just changed the marzocchi out to a fox float 32rl

Goober replied... on 3 April 2010

just upgraded front and rear from an RST22 on the rear and from a RockShox Judy XC to a 2007 bomber on the front and a 2010 fox vanilla on the rear went from 3" of travel to 5"

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Goober said on 1 April 2010

Its mine its old and so am I

Goober replied... on 22 May 2010

still saving the pennies so i can get that floating caliper system for the rear

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This is my toy. it's a 98 model with 6" of travel. The bike set-up is White Brothers UD 150 Pro front fork, Fox Vanilla rear shock, Sun Rynolite double wall rim with XT hub rear, Sun Rynolite double wall with Hope hub front, Race Face 50mm Diabolus D2 0 rise stem FSA FatPig DH\Pro headset with Eaton ea50 midrise bar Race Face Evolve DH crank. Azonic Accelerator peddles. Sram x.7 shifters and rear de-railer. Magura hydraulic disc in the front and Magura hydraulic rim in the rear. Wtb pure race saddle.

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